Windows 7?

blair99 · Post by **blair99** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:35 pm

Dose white cap work with windows 7?
If not are they going to make a version that dose?

blair99 · Post by **blair99** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:36 pm

lol dose anyone know?
because my friend has it for vista and i want to buy a copy but i am not going to if it doesn't work.

Marvic_nl · Post by **Marvic_nl** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:05 pm

Seems it doesn't. I had Vista, now Win 7 RC and after installation I can't find any of the plugins in de WMP menu's anymore. It's WMP version 12.

Is there any workaround to make this work?

blair99 · Post by **blair99** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:32 pm

o hell yea it works man. I re-downloaded it and installed it and it works great.

GizmoGTI · Post by **GizmoGTI** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:46 am

I can't seem to get whitecap to work with Windows 7 (x64) WMP. I see the option to select it from the menu when i right click in the WMP display but am not able to choose it - only able to choose alchemy and the other default ones.

I have whitecap premium license, but has expired.

Can someone please advise me if Whitecap is supported to run on Win 7 x64?

juxtiphi · Post by **juxtiphi** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:33 am

none of the soundspectrum products are 64 bit yet so they may or may not run on your machine.

icbw here but,

64 bit uses a proxy to run 32 bit programs, its like a secondary registry for 32 bit progs but there is no guarantee the instillation will set up the correct keys for usage in a 64 bit machine .

GizmoGTI · Post by **GizmoGTI** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:24 pm

I see, thanks juxtiphi,.. This all worked with Vista x64 in the past, I suppose by using as you mentioned the x86 proxy path...

I think for soundspectrum's sake they should get their act into gear for x64 support asap.

Kind Regards
Jim

juxtiphi · Post by **juxtiphi** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:44 pm

here are some quotes from andy on the subject.

andy55 wrote:
Willem wrote:I'm using Vista Ultimate 64bit and the last G-force platinum Beta.

The G-force visualization is available in Media Player and works correct. But in Media Center the visualization is not available! Does someone knows how i can add the visualization to Media Center?

I've heard that Media Center 64bit doesn't accept 32bit applications inside it. Anyone expierence with Vista 32bit Media Center and the visualization?

Best regards,
Willem
Sadly, this is correct... 64 bit processes can't host 32 bit processes, and the reason GF is working in WMC is that Microsoft launches the 32 bit version of WMP by default (if you launch the 64 bit version of WMP, G-Force won't be there either). The real mystery is why Microsoft ships 64 bit binaries of WMP and WMC on their 64 bit OS at all. In other words, the only class of apps that ever have a need to be 64 bit are scientific apps and database servers. Unless people suddenly need to play a 4GB mp3, there's absolutely no reason why Microsoft should be distributing WMP and WMC in 64 bit form. In short, it's absurd.

Andy

andy55 wrote:
crustom wrote:Hello,
But... wait a minute... the G-Force visualization software is some kind of a scientific application, no ?
Well, an application that needs more than 4GB of storage? "Scientific" apps often have data models that span more than a couple gigs of memory... Examples are physical modeling and genetic research...

Andy

andy55 wrote:
crustom wrote:Yes, I understand. I am in biomedical engineering myself and many mathematical models I use are quite big in size...

By quoting the G-Force software a "scientific application", I was just trying to ask you if they are plans to provide a 64bit version of it in the near futur ?

Don't forget that when trying to build a finite element model of heart cavities and some kind of a catheter inside it, I can still appreciate and value the beauty of G-Force : it helps me relax during my coffee breaks...
Yeah, we're migrating the codebase to 64 bit compatibility as we rev stuff, but it's low priority since 32 bit processes will be supported for a long, long time. In fact, it's only because Microsoft makes the WMC 64 bit on Vista 64 us the reason this is even an issue--it's totally nuts.

andy

andy55 wrote:
crustom wrote:Just because I am a little curious... is it a lot of work to migrate a 32bit codebase to 64bit ? I am not an expert but do you need to write new code or is it just a question of compiling the original 32bit code with 64bit flags ?

Again I am not an expert...
Yes and no... It's normally not a lot of work, but it does double a company's liability/QA with no engineering benefits whatsoever (the only benefit would be to support x64 setups). In performance sensitive software (e.g. music visualization, games, etc), you're basically chewing up more (limiting) RAM bandwidth with absolutely no added benefit. The only benefit is *if* an app needs to access more than 4 GB at once (which is unheard-of for entertainment software).

To put things in perspective, few to no companies offer x64 bit versions of their software. For example, you'd get nil for a response if you emailed EA or Adobe and asked them to provide an x64 version of their titles.

If/When SoundSpectrum grows large enough to have a budget for x64 development, we'll definitely jump at it, but we're just not there yet unfortunately.

Andy

GizmoGTI · Post by **GizmoGTI** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:03 am

well i suppose Andy really needs to revise his position on this topic, will need to quickly jump onto x64 bit platform as many NEW PC's will be x64 based running Windows 7 x64 version!!! I remember Bill Gates once uttering these famous words "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

GizmoGTI · Post by **GizmoGTI** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:49 am

so still no win 7 wmp x64 support?

com'n andy get it together buddy! This is like saying why would anyone want a 2TB SanDisc!!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/sony ... h-speed-m/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

GrampaDan · Post by **GrampaDan** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:47 pm

Well darn. The reason I bought Whitecap premium and Softskies premium was to play in the windows media player. Unfortunately I'm using 64 bit windows 7 on a quad core machine (if that makes a difference). The screen saver works great and I get the little player in the google sidebar, but nada in media player. I'm pretty disappointed with that.

GizmoGTI · Post by **GizmoGTI** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:50 am

does it even work on wmp win 7 x86?

GrampaDan · Post by **GrampaDan** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:13 pm

GizmoGTI wrote:does it even work on wmp win 7 x86?

I've just loaded winamp pro and it works just fine in winamp pro.

Helix · Post by **Helix** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:08 am

OK... Windows 7 32-bit Media Center works fine with Whitecap.

Windows 7 64-bit ....it showed up in Media Player, but not Media Center...as this post says.

VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!

Dear SoundSpectrum,
Please update your faithful clients (us) when you make a 64-bit version. WMC is all I bought this for on my HTPC.

Thanks...

juxtiphi · Post by **juxtiphi** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:17 pm

Helix wrote:OK... Windows 7 32-bit Media Center works fine with Whitecap.

Windows 7 64-bit ....it showed up in Media Player, but not Media Center...as this post says.

VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!

Dear SoundSpectrum,
Please update your faithful clients (us) when you make a 64-bit version. WMC is all I bought this for on my HTPC.

Thanks...

why disappointed ? it clearly states in the faq the whitecap does not work with 64 bit.

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